Tea Partiers Hate Government-Run Health

22 Responses to “Tea Partiers Hate Government-Run Health”

1. Clayton Farlow writes
   November 9th, 2009 11:11 am

   Weak.

2. Moderate Democrat writes
   November 9th, 2009 11:20 am

   Very good. Teabaggers love to stereotype “government run health care” as bureaucratic and inefficient while ignoring the obvious inefficiencies of private insurance providers. I think Pence and the others should opt out of their government run health care and take only private coverage.

3. frankj writes
   November 9th, 2009 11:32 am

   If you are a veteran, you get government-run healthcare, if you are an elected official or a government employee, you get government-run healthcare, if you are old, you get government run healthcare via Medicare that you are supposed to have paid for before you got old through FICA, if you are dirt poor, you get government run healthcare. Those deals were made, those laws were passed. The VA, Medicare, Medicaid and (goverment) employee based insurance is available if you qualify as a member of one of those groups. The issue now is whether the government should insure you if you are NOT one of those groups. The government also provides housing if you are in one of those groups be it barracks or government housing. The government also provides food for you if you are in one of those groups, be it the mess hall or food stamps. Certainly food and shelter are one of life’s necessities, as much, if not more, than free health care.
   To be clear, I strongly oppose both the idea that the government is to provide everyone health care and the idea that health care is a fundamental right. What I dislike more is the dishonesty of the “public option”. By any reasonable measure the goal of a “public option” is a single-payer plan. The goal is to bankrupt private health insurance except for the extremely wealthy who can afford basically the equivalent of the bluest-chip private school for their kids on top of the hefty tax burden they pay for the “public option” (i.e. public schools) for the “other people”. Why the intellectual dishonesty? Why not just state that the goal is a single-payer plan. Why go through the charade (and inevitable political campaigns) whereby the Democrat will be running on charging nothing for the public option while the mean Republican wants to charge a fee? The public option is not a compromise alternative to single-payer, it is a renaming of a single-payer plan.

4. TNVoluneer73 writes
   November 9th, 2009 11:32 am

   Moderate Dem.

   Well when you get your public option health insurance dont come to me crybabying when you are denied treatment

   Remember Government Healthcare Medcare/Medicaide deny 200% more medical treaments than Private Care.

5. TNVoluneer73 writes
   November 9th, 2009 11:34 am

   Moderate Democrat, Is there a little bit of the Pot calling the kettle black in your posts

   you say “Very good. Teabaggers love to stereotype ”

   Isnt the calling people Teabaggers a sterotype.

   ROFLMBO…

6. Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator writes
   November 9th, 2009 11:45 am

   TNVol73: How are private insurance denials superior to government-plan denials?

7. JB writes
   November 9th, 2009 11:46 am

   This is perhaps the dumbest rebuttal to those who oppose a government takeover of health care. An opponent of socialized medicine had a heart attack and (gasp) accepted treatment from a government doctor. They were on the grounds of the U.S. Capitol! Generally, in emergency situations you take treatment from the closest medical provider, in this case it was the Capitol physician’s office. Besides, does anyone think this treatment was free of charge?

8. Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator writes
   November 9th, 2009 11:48 am

   BTW, I’d prefer a Swiss-style system here in the US, and as I recall, you do too.

   Why didn’t Republicans get behind Paul Ryan’s proposal? It seemed like the best of them out there. Instead, Boehner and Co. came up with a very conservative do-nothing plan that would do nothing to reign in health insurer abuses.

9. Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator writes
   November 9th, 2009 11:49 am

   “This is perhaps the dumbest rebuttal to those who oppose a government takeover of health care.”

   There is no planned government takeover of health care.

10. common sense writes
    November 9th, 2009 11:49 am

    Or if they’re military veterans.

    Or if they’re over 65.

    Stop the government takeover of my Medicare!!!! And get off my lawn!!!!

11. TNVoluneer73 writes
    November 9th, 2009 12:07 pm

    Common Sense..

    They are stopping Government Take over of Medicare, The Government is Cutting 1/2 Trilliion dollars from the medicare Budget according to the bill that just passed. So you got what you wanted..

    ROFLMBO..

    Common Sense Are liberals stupid or ignorant.

    Stupid is for Life, Ignorance can be cured.

12. Emmett Flatus writes
    November 9th, 2009 12:21 pm

    Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator writes:

    “There is no planned government takeover of health care.”

    You sound like the perfect candidate to purchase some beachfront property just outside Phoenix I have for sale.

13. Moderate Democrat writes
    November 9th, 2009 1:37 pm

    “Well when you get your public option health insurance dont come to me crybabying when you are denied treatment”

    I will complain to the source like I have many many times with my increasingly bureaucratic employer provided healthcare. So if Medicare is so bad, why do Medicare recipients give it higher satisfaction rates than those of us with private insurance give our providers.

    Also, most Medicare/Medicaid denials are from the restrictions placed upon the programs at its inception. Before that, the elderly and the poor had no health coverage at all.

    It’s time we join the rest of the world’s democracies and institute a universal health care system that is more efficient than the current one and toss the labelling and inflexible philosophies that hold us back.

14. TNVoluneer73 writes
    November 9th, 2009 1:42 pm

    Moderate Democrat.. yep you go ahead and complain. This is the Government, not a private company that needs to keep your business.

    Yep show me where a Universal healthcare is more efficent.

    More efficent means it saves money.. there is only 1 WAY TO SAVE MONEY… RATION.

    So you keep your Public Option. and don’t crybaby when your Chemotherapy is Denied, or your Heart Bipass is postoponed due to lack of funds.

    Unlike PRIVATE health insurance, the Government insurance plan is not required to keep a FUND to cover the cost of healthcare that it provides.

    I can see you know in Federal Court screaming I WANT MY TUMMY TUCK.

15. DADvocate writes
    November 9th, 2009 1:48 pm

    …government operated medicine providers.

    Powell ain’t got no idear what he’s talking about.

    …even elected officials who attended the rally say they love the medical care they receive while on Captiol Hill:

    I’d love it too, we won’t be getting the same care elected officials or federal employees get. They won’t be subject to the health care reform laws now being considered. I wonder why.

    Powell should start an “Idiots for Health Care Reform” group.

16. black community writes
    November 9th, 2009 3:14 pm

    The elected officials do not live anywhere near the poverty line to qualify a need for the public option.

    IM AN AMERICAN, AM A PATRIOT BECAUSE I FIGHT TO END DISCRIMINATION AND TO ADVANCE THE NEEDS OF THE POORER COMMUNITIES ON A DAILY BASIS. I was taught to help thy neighbor and to treat people as i would like to be treated. We each have a moral responsibility to TRY to help those that need help. Health care is a RIGHT and not a PRIVILAGE–(MEMO TO ZACK WAMP)

17. black community writes
    November 9th, 2009 3:17 pm

    America will pass health care reform, and we will continue to make incremental strides to have the best care and the best prices for All Americans over the next decade. This bill is not perfect, but its NOT what the G.O.P, teabaggers say it is either. DOCTORS REFUTE THE MYTHS THAT ARE FOX NEWS TALKING POINTS.

18. Snuffy writes
    November 9th, 2009 3:19 pm

    This is the core disconnect regular people have with the radical Teabaggers.

    Everyone knows someone - whether its a parent, grandparent, relative, or friend - that gets “government run healthcare” through Medicare or the V.A. Both programs are well-liked and supported by the public.

    Your “big government/socialized medicine” arguments didn’t work. They only allowed you to paint yourselves as radicals who are out of touch with the American mainstream and to further divide the Republican Party.

    Politically, the healthcare issue has been a loser for the Republicans as the GOP’s losses last week in two GOP-favored seats in Congress fell to pro-healthcare, pro-public option Democrats.

19. Brawndo the Thirst Mutilator writes
    November 9th, 2009 3:49 pm

    TNVol73: “More efficent means it saves money.. there is only 1 WAY TO SAVE MONEY… RATION.”

    “So you keep your Public Option. and don’t crybaby when your Chemotherapy is Denied, or your Heart Bipass is postoponed due to lack of funds.”

    So how does this differ from private insurance?

    A private health insurer rations based on company profitability and expected return to shareholders.

    A public option would ration based on funds available.

    If you say that we don’t have rationing now, you’re simply delusional.

20. Davy writes
    November 9th, 2009 8:42 pm

    “I was taught to help thy neighbor and to treat people as i would like to be treated. We each have a moral responsibility to TRY to help those that need help.”

    No. Remember. When you’re dealing with the Promise Keeping John Ensigns and Mark Sanfords…it’s
    “do unto your interns, give them bonuses, and they will do you too.”

    Just thought I’d clear that up in case you were under the mistaken belief that the evangelical, Christian right GOP followed the same Golden Rule you do

21. frankj writes
    November 9th, 2009 9:14 pm

    “I was taught to help thy neighbor and to treat people as i would like to be treated. We each have a moral responsibility to TRY to help those that need help.”

    who is stopping you from trying to accomplish what you were taught. Feel free to help those that need help. You have my permission.

22. Andre c writes
    November 18th, 2009 4:43 pm

    I have worked in health care for a long time in both the U.S. and Canada; I agree that both countries are great and both offer great health care. Here in the U.S. insurnace companies deny people life saving care that they need, I have seen people who need certain treatments and the insurance companies step in and say “they don’t need those treatments or there policy does not cover that”. I have seen the same type of patient in Canada get all the care/treatments they need, whether it be multiple CT scans in one day or experimental treatments that is best for the patient. It seems that here in the U.S. the insurance companies always step in and deny patients treatments based on the cost, and they end up saying there policy does not cover that!

    I think that the majority of people believe that “cost” should never be apart of their health needs. America should now provide all Americans the same care that countries like Canada and France provide to all there citizens.