Madison County Democratic Chair Calls The Tea Party Right ‘Brownshirts’
By Kleinheider Posted on August 5, 2009 at 7:52 amJohn Scott is not pleased:
This is the intelligent discussion Democrats are engaging in. Disagree with them, you’re a Nazi.
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Another good public servant following the lead of the White House.
Didn’t the great and venerable Barak Obama get his start as a community activist and organizer? Why yes I believe he did.
I think I read that in “Stuff White People Like…” … comparing folks to Nazis and Hitler. Yep, that’s where I found it.
FUnny book.
Sept 17 2008 Las Vegas
Barack Obama “I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face,”
We do what he tells us to do but now you dont like it….quit whining
Personally, I want a townhall to discuss this with Rep. Tanner. It’s a very important issue. I want this because I am an American and I deserve this in a Democratic Republic. It is logical and represents COMMON SENSE to do so.
Who is this anti-American from Madison Co. anyway?
Kathy he’s the king of west tennessee trial lawyers. Thats who he is. When he says jump, people like Senator Lowe Finney say how high. Oh and talk about hypocrisy. These people at the tea parties are the exact same people the democrat party claims to care so much about. In Selmer for instance, the tea party organizers are retired teachers who gave their blood sweat and tears to liberal groups like the TEA in the 60’s,70’s and 80’s,others in Selmer are firemen,farmers and factory workers. These are all people that the democrat party claims to care so much about but here they are attacking them.
Kathy, maybe you’re sincere. But my guess, based on the evidence from elsewhere in the country, is you don’t want a townhall because you want to hear from John Tanner. And my guess, again based on the evidence, is you don’t want a townhall to “discuss” anything, because discussions are civil exchanges of ideas in which the parties talk to each other and, most importantly, listen to each other.
My guess–based on the evidence–is you and yours just want to yell at him to make a YouTube video.
But I encourage you to show I’m wrong.
Albert, I assure you that I want an intelligent discussion. I am quite sincere about this and I find “yelling” to be extremely immature and counter productive. Something needs to be done about health care in this country, but I honestly do not like much of what I see proposed. I also dislike the tendency to label people.
Dan, I am frankly not impressed by the *king* of West Tennessee trial lawyers. I am also familiar with some of the retired teachers and farmers in the McNairy County area and they are good people, though I have not always agreed with them on certain issues.
I myself used to be a Democrat. I then opted to be Republican. Presently, I am Independent. I am not terribly happy with either party.
“But I encourage you to show I’m wrong.”
How can we when Congressman Tanner won’t even hold a town hall meeting.
There’s no excuse for disruptions or shouting people down. People in West TN are not like that. It will be a civil discussion of the issues if it happens.
There is a distinct difference between liberals and conservatives when we protest. Liberals are peaceful. These tea baggers just shout and yell violently. Honestly if they would just take a peaceful approach, people might not think that they are all crazy as hell.
I think the Brownshirt Republicans should voice their opposition to that socialist healthcare in a more full way. In addition to showing up at congressional meetings, they should publicly advocate that all seniors give up Medicare, that all poor people give up Medicaid. That includes the old folks in nursing homes. After all, they can go live with their kids or, if they have no children to care for them, just live on the streets. It’s their tough luck.
Also, protest in front of all doctors’ offices that accept Medicare and Medicaid patients.
If they really are against socialized medicine, they need to go all out and go after the current programs as wella s the proposed ones. Otherwise, they are nothing but cowards and hypocrites.
Brown shirts is a reference to NAZIs
National Socialists
Who wants to see the nationalization of Heathcare, Energy, Finacial Sector, Transportation,
Who wants Progressive tax codes.
But then again, Democrats are supportive of an incompetent Public School system. And it appears are products of them.
It ain’t the Tea Party members.
I think Someone needs to go back to 8th Grade World History because they apparenlty did not get it the first time.
ClearSprings,
Is this an attempt to write without any prejudice and support honest adult dialogue and discussion?
TNVolunteer73 you have it exactly correct. Hitler was a great orator and held a ‘rock star’ status. Hitler advocated nationalization of key sectors of the German economy. Sounding familiar?
Never forget that Liberals are extremely dangerous if left unchecked. The greatest liberals of the 20th century, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, were responsible for slaughter of 250,000,000 people — mostly their own citizens.
There’s no excuse for disruptions or shouting people down. People in West TN are not like that. It will be a civil discussion of the issues if it happens.
Yes, when I think of Memphis politics, I think of civil and intelligent political discourse
Never forget that Liberals are extremely dangerous if left unchecked. The greatest liberals of the 20th century, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, were responsible for slaughter of 250,000,000 people — mostly their own citizens.
You really don’t know what a liberal is, do you?
Well,since Robert Hill shits himself so easily,does that mean he is a ‘brownpants Democrat’?
Um. Just curious. Has anyone confirmed the referrenced “Robert Hill” was the author of that comment?
Of course the modern Republicans are all closet fascists - everyone already knows that.
What people don’t know, especially this Robert Hill character in Madison County, is that John Tanner actually voted AGAINST healthcare reform in his committee a few weeks ago.
So while I appreciate Mr. Hill being a good Yellow Dog trying to defend his representative, he should have at least had his facts straight before he praised Tanner.
Which begs the questions: Will Robert Hill lambaste Tanner for voting No on healthcare in committee? And will the Reich Wingers send Tanner a thank-you note for doing their bidding?
Enquiring minds want to know.
“Yes, when I think of Memphis politics, I think of civil and intelligent political discourse”
Well, Memphis is full of Democrats.
“Just curious. Has anyone confirmed the referrenced “Robert Hill” was the author of that comment?”
It was posted from his facebook account on the Madison County Young Republicans fan page.
“Reich Wingers …”
Ahhh, civil discourse.
Sean.. A liberal is someone that wants the Government to take control of Education, healthcare, Energy, Retirement, Transportation and Finincial Sector, supports a progressive tax system.
a A national Socialist is one that wants the Government to control Education, healthcare, energy Retirment, transportation and Financial Sector, and supports are progressive tax system.
Nuff said.
Corndawg..
Facist are socialist
Republicans are Capitalist
Government studies was not your strong suit huh.
A liberal also supports basic human rights such as freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and other protections from the Government like the right to council, etc…a fascist like Hitler supported none of those.
Are there similarities between Liberalism and Conservatism to that of Nazism? Sure enough, but if all Hitler did was nationalize a few sectors of the economy, I don’t think his name would have the pejorative value that it does today.
Sean, the last couple of days have featured a lot of liberals who don’t seem to be big fans of certain free speech.
We can argue about the proper way to confront your representatives, but what’s really been happening is a concerted effort to marginalize any an all opposition to any of the propsosed healthcare bills.
When I see liberals dismiss offhand every single person who speaks up in opposition as a nutter blindly following orders (from where? I don’t know), those liberals give the impression that they really aren’t up for the game.
It’s a variation of argumentum ad hominem called ad hominem circumstantial. It’s also an association fallacy (although the birthers are the weapon of choice to employ this fallacy).
You cannot win an argument, logically, by ignoring the argument and attacking your opponent. It really doesn’t matter if your opponent is Ghandi or Hitler, you haven’t won the argument until you’ve taken on the actual ideas.
But, enough debate school.
William Shatner almost never recovered from his “Get a life” statement, no matter how funny it was. Insulting people is no really a smart way to win people over to your side.
Sorry Sean, my usage of “you” was the common southern way of saying “one” - I didn’t mean you personally insult people (although when you do, it’s ten times more funny than some of the other bomb-throwers
)
Slarti,
I agree that not all those who oppose Obama’s policies are crazy, racist, or whatever…however, that is the danger of having a concerted effort by Conservative groups to bring out the worst in their base. Just as the liberal anti-war movement hurt themselves by having protests which highlighted dirty hippies with Buck Fush signs and what not, the Conservatives aren’t helping their cause by going out of their way to stifle an honest discussion.
When it comes to Free Speech, that can be defined in many ways. I, personally, am very much a free speech liberal and dislike most forms of censorship (including bringing back the “fairness doctrine”). But I think the erroneous claiming of first amendment protections irritates me just as much as calls to ban hate speech and the like.
Conservatives certainly have the right to petition their Government, peaceably assemble, print conservative papers, etc…but Congresscritters aren’t required to subject themselves to town halls who have been purposefully filled with people whose sole desire is to yell, berate, and stifle honest discussion. Anymore than Dubya was obligated to meet with the anti-war protesters who camped outside of his “ranch” in Texas.
Sean et al.
In contemporary America, the best way to look at the distinction between Conservatives and Liberals / Leftists is as a conflict between Individualists and Collectivists. The Right tends to see Individuals as free to choose when to participate in society and when to opt out while the Left tends to view the interests of Society to trump the interests of the Individual.
The problem we face is that both sides are currently dominated by Revolutionaries who cannot stop pursuing ideological purity when we need to recognize that we need a healthy balance of both. We are being dragged into the Twilight Zone by people who care more for abstrctions than Reality.
One can accept some limits on the Individual and on the Society without betraying either Idea.
Mark,
I’d agree if I thought that was the case…but the Democratic party has made gains because they’ve attempted to take a more moderate approach. Sure, in Obama’s heart of hearts he’d probably like to see a socialized medical system vis a vis Canada or England; a public college system similar to the Brits, and a whole host of other leftists wants that have failed to come to fruition.
Instead, the Dems are pursuing a health care proposal that has qualified backing from both the medical care and some parts of the medical insurance industry.
The “cap and trade” proposals for curbing Greenhouse emissions are essentially a middle-of-the-road approach that forgoes the traditional liberal tact of simply capping or regulating.
Whereas FDR stood up and challenged Wallstreet to come after him, the President and Democrats have gone out of their way to ensure that the “fat cats” maintain a healthy weight and ensure the rich stay rich.
The biggest problem with all of Obama’s proposals has less to do with their ideological scope, by far they are nowhere near to the left as what FDR and LBJ proposed and instituted, rather, its a matter of budgetary constraints, and the continuation of the ideology of tax cuts and spending increases popularized in the 80s.
All of the local democratic parties are screwed up. Look at the leadership in Davidson County - it’s no better.
The Democratic Party does NOT care about the average responsible working folks keeping this republic afloat. Y’all need to disabuse yourselves of that notion.
Davidson County Dems, have a well oiled machine. Just look at the fundraising we do and the people we get elected as compared to other parties Dem. or Rep.
Donna Locke, yeah and the Republicans sure do! lmao
Did I say they do?
Sean,
It should be remember that FDR’s programs failed to end the Depression and that LBJ’s did massive long-term damage to the American economy.
The current health care proposals by the President may not be full-blown socialized medicine but remember what I said about the Revolutionary nature of the extremes. There is a powerful Leftist ideological move for state-run health care. Add to that the increased power that government control gives to Congress and you can bet that this wil only be one more step.
‘Cap and Trade’ embodies the danger of the permanent governing class. Man-made global warming is constantly being debunked but our liberal legilators, most of whom can’t balance a checkbook much less run a lemonade stand, see it as a venue for more power. The most lefty see it as another way to destroy the evil of capitalism and create the perfect state.
The Girondons pursued more moderate goals and the Jacobins beat them and executed them
The Mensheviks pursued more moderate goals and lost to the Bolsheviks.
Before you ask for this much government control of people’s lives, you need to show me how you plan to prevent government from gaining more power.
memphis democrat that is Obama’s plan to bankrupt medicare to pay for his Socialized Healthcare plans.
You see I listened to Obama before he got power and what he said he was going to do when he got power..
I warned ya.. you didn’t listen
Now we have Deficts that make the Bush years look like pocket Change.
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