Tea Partiers Need To Come To Terms With Bush

23 Responses to “Tea Partiers Need To Come To Terms With Bush”

1. Sandy writes
   April 14th, 2009 9:14 am

   Oh, now they changed the name to “Tea Partiers”. LOL. What happened to the teabaggers? I just wrote a little snip for the TNDP on them (still awaiting approval…drip, drip, drip).

2. Blake writes
   April 14th, 2009 9:57 am

   Honestly, the sourness within the “Tea Party” members started with Bush. It kept growing. The Republicans lost Congress because of this general mood. Unfortunately, they still haven’t learned that lesson, and Democrats in power have only made it worse.

   The train left the station during Bush and has really gained steam after seeing what Obama is doing. For most Tea Partiers, neither party has an answer. The Democrats (generally) just happen to be worse that Republicans on the issues of limited government.

   The Democrat Party followers who are trying to say that the Tea Partiers aren’t calling out Republicans are just using their talking points to try to discredit the movement. Why? Because they perceive it as a threat to their dear leader (who just happens to be in power right now).

   In reality, the timing has nothing to do with Bush or Obama. Both political parties have brought us here to where we are today. I don’t see anyone saying otherwise.

3. smijer writes
   April 14th, 2009 10:20 am

   He and his followers clung to ideology and largely supported him regardless of whether what he was doing was furthering the conservative cause or not.

   Which? These seem contrary statements. Though, somehow I still seem to have to agree with both…

4. DADvocate writes
   April 14th, 2009 10:21 am

   Tea Party Republican .and. Tea Party conservative

   Tea Party = Fed up with the Feds

   Obama’s gargantuan budget and bail out plans pushed people over the edge, the proverbial straw.

   Looking at Lehr’s writings, he seems to have a Bush obsession. Somebody tell him Bush isn’t president any more.

5. DADvocate writes
   April 14th, 2009 10:22 am

   OK. The text didn’t show.

   Tea Pary not equal Republican
   Tea Party not equal conservative

6. Sean Braisted writes
   April 14th, 2009 10:56 am

   Yet, somehow, I’d be willing to bet 90% or more of the people in attendance typically vote Republican, and nearly all claim to be “conservative”.

7. Blake writes
   April 14th, 2009 11:06 am

   Lesser of two evils, Sean. Lesser of two evils. However, that started to change around about the last mid-term election. That was fairly obvious.

   And by the way…”Conservative” does not equal Republican.

8. Sean Braisted writes
   April 14th, 2009 11:38 am

   What started to change in the last mid-term?

9. Blake writes
   April 14th, 2009 11:56 am

   People started to see that Republican politicians weren’t truly for limited government after all. They stayed at home and the Republicans lost control of Congress.

10. DG writes
    April 14th, 2009 12:22 pm

    Show me some evidence that Republican turnout was lower than usual.

    As far as I can tell, new voters went overwhelmingly for Democrats, and a good number of formerly reliable Republicans voted for the other party.

    But that doesn’t fit into the “center right nation” horse hockey.

11. Sean Braisted writes
    April 14th, 2009 12:57 pm

    Blake,

    Granted, fewer people voted for Republicans in 2006 compared to 2002, as well as in 2008 compared to 2004, but that was a fraction of the amount of new voters who came out for Democrats in the latter two cycles.

    In 2008, Obama increased upon Kerry’s vote total by about 10 million, whereas McCain only got 2.5 million less than El Jefe.

    In 2006, Republican votes decreased by a little less than 2 million over 2002 totals, whereas Democrats increased their votes by about eight and a half million. Sure, some of that might’ve been “conservatives” dropping out of the process, but some of that was probably also Republicans switching to Democrats.

    Ultimately, there isn’t some great silent majority of white conservatives sitting on their hands waiting for The One, they are out, they vote in higher proportions to their population than Democratic voters often due, the problem is they are outnumbered in America, especially as Conservatives die off and more liberal youth enter the political arena.

12. Donna Locke writes
    April 14th, 2009 1:12 pm

    and more liberal youth enter the political arena

    Incredibly ignorant youth who can’t even name the vice president of the United States, much less be capable of making a decision on anything but the overemotional rallying cry of the moment.

13. Sean Braisted writes
    April 14th, 2009 1:24 pm

    Well, I’ll take the mental faculties of the youth over those of the aging rightwing nuts at tomorrow’s tea baggin’ party any day of the week.

    I’ll bet 90% of those there can’t even name the state in which Obama was born

14. Andy Axel writes
    April 14th, 2009 1:25 pm

    making a decision on anything but the overemotional rallying cry of the moment.

    But enough about WMD in Iraq…

15. Donna Locke writes
    April 14th, 2009 1:30 pm

    Hey Sean, I’m taking my vitamins, doing my yoga, and walking my miles every day. I hope to annoy you for a few more decades.

16. Sean Braisted writes
    April 14th, 2009 1:34 pm

    Oh, don’t worry, any day now I’ll wise up and see the error of my liberal ways.

17. Donna Locke writes
    April 14th, 2009 1:34 pm

    Andy, add some of those let’s-you-and-him-fight country songs to that. I opposed our involvement in the Iraq and the Persian Gulf wars, by the way.

18. CoverBothSides writes
    April 14th, 2009 2:21 pm

    Sean - do you know of any studies showing the voting habits of a single group as they move through different ages in life? I’ve always heard that most young people lean towards liberal ideology, but as they get older and learn how the world really works, they think/vote more conservative. Who was it that said, “If you’re a Republican at 20, you have no heart. And if you’re not a Republican at 40, you have no understanding of economics.”? Anyway, just curious if anyone has ever quantified this or tracked a group of voters over their lifetimes to see if it’s true. Today’s pierced teen is tomorrow’s soccer mom.

    Yes, intentional swipe there at “how the world really works”.

19. Sean Braisted writes
    April 14th, 2009 3:15 pm

    Not sure who said that, but I think you are thinking of a Churchill quote.

    As for whether younger voters will turn Conservative, no doubt some will, but I was actually speaking more towards the more immediate elections.

20. dontcallmemikey writes
    April 14th, 2009 3:25 pm

    What in Heaven’s name does the current Republican Party - or the one espoused by Rush Limbaugh - offer to the youth of America, many of whom will never be able to make it to the Limbaugh level of economics and will spend their days working for no benefits, no health care, poor education - if they’re lucky enough to score a job?
    Hope? That’s an old ski-nosed comedian, and he’s dead.
    Rushpublicans talk about the welfare state - but where’s the chance for anyone not already in the upper class?

21. Blake writes
    April 14th, 2009 4:18 pm

    “Hope? That’s an old ski-nosed comedian, and he’s dead.”

    Wasn’t that the slogan of a recently elected politician?

    Sounds like both sides are offering the same thing then.

22. Blake writes
    April 14th, 2009 4:30 pm

    I was actually speaking more towards the more immediate elections.

    Not thinking long term? No wonder we’re in trouble.

23. spaz writes
    April 14th, 2009 5:20 pm

    This is how you can tell that the Teabaggers are all Republicans.

    They are throwing BUSH under the bus, but not the Republican legislators who all voted with Bush and were cheerleaders for his agenda.

    Let’s stop pretending that all you Ron Paul nutjobs were “revolutioning” all the way back in the day. Every damn one of you were for Bush’s wars, Bush’s deficits, and Bush’s corporate bailouts until the polls turned against him. That’s no bullshit and you know it, so please stop with your revisionist history… AGAIN.

    The original premise of the thread holds. Until the Cons acknowledge why the American people won’t vote for them and make changes, they’re going to continue to get their asses handed to him. And make no mistake, the Republicans are losing for only two reasons - their policies do not resonate with a solid majority of Americans and they have proven to be unfit to govern.

    Y’all have your work cut out for you. THAT’s what you should be working on, not mouthing off at Tea Parties. But hey, by all means, just keep it up. You’re doing wonders for the Left, just like Bush did.