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You’re A Racist All Day

Posted on October 24, 2008 at 9:36 am

Jake Ford, brother of Harold Ford, Jr., on his independent race for the Ninth Congressional district seat against white Democratic incumbent Steve Cohen:

Though Ford says comments he made earlier this year indicating the 9th District should be represented by a black candidate were misunderstood, he did say, “As far as I’m concerned, black people should vote together as a special interest group. If that makes me racist, then call me a racist all day.”

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37 Responses to “You’re A Racist All Day”

  1. October 24th, 2008 9:47 am

    You know, at least he admits it…

    - Matthew

  2. October 24th, 2008 12:57 pm

    I don’t have a problem with black people voting as a special-interest block. I do have a problem with them (or anyone) doing that to the exclusion of everything else. And I do have a problem with the fact that, if whites did it, it would be deemed ‘racist’, and the KKK would immediately be invoked.

  3. October 24th, 2008 12:57 pm

    Actually the ones who admit are the most dangerous, Matthew, not the least.

    Should we name names?

  4. AnnaS writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:03 pm

    There is nothing wrong with such thinking per se. On a grander scale you have two interest groups Republican and Democrat. Eventually, one needs to clean house, because the incompetent people rise to the top. The ones that know how to use the system, but don’t bring benefit to the community. I think that’s happening in Congress now. The system needs new blood, but one has to go through the two parties to run for office which tend to support the current system.

  5. Dar writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:21 pm

    “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

    Sorry, MLK. 45 years on and it looks like skin color still is the measure people use–and it’s not just the whites who do so. I guess we all need to keep on dreamin’…

  6. Dood writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:22 pm

    Blacks are more racist than anyone else on the planet.

    No one is in second place.

    It’s just fine when they do it though. Don’t ask about it, either. You might offend someone.

  7. Sorry politics writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:25 pm

    Obviously, you don’t know much history of India/Pakistan. Religion is their racism because their skin color is similar.

  8. tom writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:33 pm

    Time out for a second. For four hundred years blacks have been regarded and segregated by white Americans as a group. For blacks now to think of themselves that way is hardly amazing. Instead of thinking of racism, it is more constructive to ask how blacks can be brought in to the mainstream as individuals, and not just as a group. And by the way, I am white conversative 49 year old male. Thanks for the chance to comment.

  9. Eric writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:36 pm

    Anna S said - “The ones that know how to use the system, but don’t bring benefit to the community.” We are seeing the example of someone that know’s how to use the system. Look at how Obama has used the system in a manner that if used by anyone else would be seen as busive. He broke his promise on public funding he so vehemently championed only one month before he broke it. His campaign’s ability to drown out opposition by attacking their credibility, whether its relevant or not (aka. Joe the Plumber). His policies are not beneficial to the community, only one dimension of it. Just as this politician’s special interest group will vote only to benefit them.

  10. seejay writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:36 pm

    This nonsense will never be resolved…
    Until we get over this ridiculous concept called, “RACISM.”
    Who can define it? Without admitting to being “racist” themselves?
    Blacks are better than whites at basketball. Are whites better than blacks at ANYTHING? Or does merely asking that question make me a Nazi?
    Treat all races of people with ONE standard, and you’ll see genuine human progress at bridging our differences.
    But if we continue to accept as fact, all the symbolism, manipulation, and overall BS that lies within the conventional wisdom on “racism,” we’ll never get beyond this never-ending race-baiting from those “representing and organizing” the non-productive against the productive.

  11. MG writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:37 pm

    ‘Tis a bit more complicated than that. The rise of the Black(TM) middle class, IS bringing them into the mainstream.

    In part, it is perhaps a generational thing. The familial memories of discrimination, etc. (thanks, F. Roosevelt; thanks, Democrats!) are still in living memory. A successful, integrated person is going to have internal struggles about honoring the past while living in the present.

    Add to that the traditional urban machine politics, and the ignorance of many voters (of all melanin content), and you get what we have.

  12. Eric writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:40 pm

    Addendum:
    Hitler was new blood, Mao tse-Dong was new blood, Pol Pot was new blood, Stalin was new Blood, Saddam Hussein was new blood, Ho chi-Min was new blood. Change for the sake of change is not always good…

  13. Sefton writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:52 pm

    OK. You’re a racist. All day.
    And if you want a second opinion, you’re an idiot too.

  14. mason writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:53 pm

    OK, you’re a racist.

  15. b writes
    October 24th, 2008 2:02 pm

    @Tom stop making excuses. If it’s wrong, it’s wrong. We can listen to historical arguments about why without condoning.

    “it is more constructive to ask how blacks can be brought in to the mainstream as individuals, and not just as a group.”

    How about as a first step we stop government policies that treat them as a group? The leftist use of government to favor certain groups is a recipe for disaster, it’s only a matter of time.

    And I guess you are looking to validate your perspective by pointing out your phenotype–more muddled group-based thinking.

    Does democracy in a pluralistic society where everyone is a minority really have a chance or is it just thinly disguised tribalism? Then it’s all about controlling the state and awarding sinecures and spoils to people who look like you. Democracy appears to be much better suited to ethnically homogenous states.

  16. Trey writes
    October 24th, 2008 2:06 pm

    Tom wrote: “Instead of thinking of racism, it is more constructive to ask how blacks can be brought in to the mainstream as individuals, and not just as a group.”

    By stoping the racism! Seriously, polls comparing blacks’ attitudes toward this country show that more blacks had a higher opinion of the USA in the 1950s.

    Something is way wrong with that!

    I think that positive and negative solutions are part of the answer, but eliminating the victim/racist world view will be necessary before black kids stop seeing good grammer, marriage, and a good education as a white thing.

    It is a successful thing.

    Trey

  17. megapotamus writes
    October 24th, 2008 2:14 pm

    Check with your Dem/Lib friends on the concept of a black conservative or Republican and you will find one universal diagnosis: There’s a guy who hates himself. Yes, like Clarence Thomas, Sowell, Keyes… inumerable others, any black American who does not act in lockstep with the Dems is a fool at best. A race traitor more like. This has a nasty foundation. It can only mean that not only are the interests of black citizens separate and severable from the general interests of the nation, they are antagonistic. Such a notion is untrue, vile and anti-American in equal measure. It’s From Many, One. Doofs.

  18. Brown Line writes
    October 24th, 2008 2:27 pm

    Mr Ford clearly is no rocket scientist, but I wouldn’t be so quick to call him a racist. I think there’s a qualitative difference between voting *for* someone because he’s like you, and voting *against* someone because he’s different from you.

    To a certain extent, we all are inclined to vote for those who resemble us: perhaps look like us, share our background or social position, or share our opinions. I remember the election of 1960, and how thrilled my Irish Catholic mother was at JFK’s election: and I can be absolutely sure that she cast her ballot for him principally because of his ethnicity. Does that make her a racist? Hardly.

    Likewise, if I were black, Obama’s race would make him strongly appealing to me. For centuries, blacks in our society have been on the outside looking in; to have one of their own in the Oval Office must be thrilling beyond words - just like it was for my mother, nearly 50 years ago. It could be enough to persuade me to overlook the fact that Obama is a race-hustling, Chicago-style, knee-to-the-groin politician whose resume would fit on an index card.

    So, let’s not be so fast to yell “racist”. Leave that to the Obamas and Wrights and Pflegers of this world. Let’s save “racist” for the people who really do deserve it.

  19. Agoraphobic Plumber writes
    October 24th, 2008 2:44 pm

    “Mr Ford clearly is no rocket scientist, but I wouldn’t be so quick to call him a racist. I think there’s a qualitative difference between voting *for* someone because he’s like you, and voting *against* someone because he’s different from you.

    To a certain extent, we all are inclined to vote for those who resemble us: perhaps look like us, share our background or social position, or share our opinions. I remember the election of 1960, and how thrilled my Irish Catholic mother was at JFK’s election: and I can be absolutely sure that she cast her ballot for him principally because of his ethnicity. Does that make her a racist? Hardly.

    Likewise, if I were black, Obama’s race would make him strongly appealing to me. For centuries, blacks in our society have been on the outside looking in; to have one of their own in the Oval Office must be thrilling beyond words - just like it was for my mother, nearly 50 years ago. It could be enough to persuade me to overlook the fact that Obama is a race-hustling, Chicago-style, knee-to-the-groin politician whose resume would fit on an index card.

    So, let’s not be so fast to yell “racist”. Leave that to the Obamas and Wrights and Pflegers of this world. Let’s save “racist” for the people who really do deserve it.”

    That is about the finest comment I’ve read in a political blog in a long, long time. Excellent, excellent point about voting for vs. against someone and the implications for racism or lack thereof.

    I KNEW something was bothering me about the line of attack a lot of my fellow conservatives were taking by accusing black people of racism for voting for Obama. I’ve seen that as a pretty understandable aspect of this election, but couldn’t articulate it like you just did. Bravo.

  20. ic writes
    October 24th, 2008 2:49 pm

    Ron: Please name names.

    Those admit they are racists are better than the one who claims to be post-racial when he is winning, and throws his grandma under the bus when he runs into a snag, then claims everybody who criticizes him and not supports him racist.

  21. rateoforange writes
    October 24th, 2008 4:01 pm

    “That is about the finest comment I’ve read in a political blog in a long, long time. Excellent, excellent point about voting for vs. against someone and the implications for racism or lack thereof.”

    For vs. against based on skin color makes no difference. Both are racist acts that stem from first the dividing the human race into ‘like and other’ on the basis of skin color, and then from making choices based on that.

    If I told you I was voting for McCain because he was white, I would be racist. Catholicism is an ideology, and its perfectly acceptable to make decisions based on beliefs and not be racist. Irish people are an ethnic group, so if you vote for someone just because they are (or aren’t) Irish, the worst you can be accused of is ethnocentrism. Most people would agree ethnocentrism is damaging, but not nearly to the same degree as racism.

    So yes. Black people voting based on skin color are racist. Personally I define myself by my beliefs, so people who ‘resemble me’ are the ones that share my beliefs. If you define your identity is racist terms, you’ll cast a racist vote. That’s identity politics for you.

  22. Iamnottheone writes
    October 24th, 2008 4:17 pm

    Personally, I’m voting for good ole Jake. He racist, not very smart, and a little slimy, but that makes him 100% better than Steve Cohen.

  23. Donna Locke writes
    October 24th, 2008 5:06 pm

    Does democracy in a pluralistic society where everyone is a minority really have a chance or is it just thinly disguised tribalism? Then it’s all about controlling the state and awarding sinecures and spoils to people who look like you.

    No doubt we will find out. And I dare say the formerly generous and fair will be forced to defensive “tribalism” as true colors shine through — if the obvious present is an indicator.

  24. jack writes
    October 24th, 2008 6:32 pm

    All arguments aside, I am sick of the double standard. A white man who said such a RASCIST thing would be crucified by the media, politicians and the outcry from blacks would be enormous. A black man can say it all day with impunity. Time for this B.S. to stop has already passed.

  25. mac writes
    October 24th, 2008 6:49 pm

    “Does democracy in a pluralistic society where everyone is a minority really have a chance or is it just thinly disguised tribalism? Then it’s all about controlling the state and awarding sinecures and spoils to people who look like you. Democracy appears to be much better suited to ethnically homogenous states.”

    I think b nailed it. Whites will see their children live to bitterly regret the influx of melanin-enhanced people who were let into this country by politicians who thought they were being “fair” but who ended up destroying much of what made America great.

    Lyndon Johnson for the ’60s generation is associated with the Vietnam War. Far more important in the long run was his passage of the 1965 Immigration Reform Act, which has changed this country far more than the Vietnam War did.

    The only thing one can say in the defense of the fools that passed that Act was that they really had no idea of how big a mistake they were making–and how much it would cost their descendants.

  26. Jenn writes
    October 24th, 2008 7:41 pm

    I feel the exact same way about my race. That’s why I voted against Jake’s brother, Harold.

  27. I'm a racist, apparently writes
    October 24th, 2008 8:40 pm

    Ya know, you’re a racist all day dude. No big surprise.

  28. Tood writes
    October 24th, 2008 9:57 pm

    Think about it. The groups that talk the most about their race, and make the biggest deal about it, are the least successful, poorest groups :

    Blacks, Mexican ‘La Raza’ types.

    The groups that talk the least about their ethnic identity or race, tend to be the most successful groups :

    Indians, Chinese, Koreans.

    How often do you hear these groups complain of racism? When is the last time you heard a Chinese person complain? Where is the Asian ‘Jesse Jackson’? Indians have dark skin and were colonized by the British for 200 years (until 1947, so much more recently than the date when slavery ended in the US).

    So the moral of the story is, the less fuss you make about racism, the more successful you are likely to be. And vice-versa.

  29. Tood writes
    October 24th, 2008 10:05 pm

    ‘Racism’ : The incredible shrinking slur…

    Just a short while ago, it was the worst insult you could hurl at a white person. Now, leftists are overusing this so much that the sting of it is diminishing.

    Obama, as President, will go too far in using it. Even if he himself does not, his wife and his cronies will. He will play the race card on Senate Republicans. On the Supreme Court. On the Pentagon. On Putin…..

    The whole insult will just collapse. In fact, people who play the ‘race card’ too much will themselves become a stereotype that is heavily mocked. Comedians will have routines that parody the overuse of the ‘racism’ accusation.

  30. Sorry politics writes
    October 24th, 2008 10:40 pm

    Tood: do you know anything about the history of immigration law starting back in the late 60s? The groups you mentioned, one of which is part of my family, were allowed to immigrate based on their ability to contribute intellectually. Some of the present African Americans, like Obama’s father,were allowed to come here to study for the same reason. Michelle Obama’s ancestors did not have those choices or, to be more blunt, they had no choice! Think about what your are saying or go spend some time on the internet, or in the library, reading. It’s not an arguable, political point: it’s just history.

  31. JWnTX writes
    October 25th, 2008 12:49 am

    The minute you politicize status, you lose any moral high ground to claim racism/discrimination because your politics and your status become entangled and you lose any right to dictate where your “blackness” ends and your political stance begins. Probably a good thing for black America because it will remove the race card from its list of excuses for its refusal to acknowledge that hard work, no matter what the color of your skin, is the only way to succeed in America and disabuse it of the notion of the Dim Party rescuing it from some Republican phantom menace at some undefined future date.

  32. Tood writes
    October 25th, 2008 1:21 am

    Sorry Politics,

    You are a pathetic whiner. The change in immigration laws from the 1960s is the tiniest of factors, and also wrong. You see many Indian taxi drivers, Chinese cooks, etc. They do not have college educations, but work hard and don’t commit crimes.

    No black people alive today are slaves, or even the grandchildren of slaves. There are so many laws that discriminate against whites in favor of blacks.

    I see you don’t think blacks should actually have to make any efforts.

    Go educate yourself before you speak of something you don’t comprehend.

  33. DN writes
    October 25th, 2008 3:40 am

    You cannot remove dirt with another dirt.
    Simillarly, you do not cure rasism with opposite racism. You cure it with absence of ANY racism.

    Because any racism, even in its mildest affirmative action form, is still a racism.

  34. Sookie writes
    October 25th, 2008 6:22 am

    @AnneS

    #
    AnnaS writes
    October 24th, 2008 1:03 pm

    There is nothing wrong with such thinking per se. On a grander scale you have two interest groups Republican and Democrat. Eventually, one needs to clean house, because the incompetent people rise to the top. The ones that know how to use the system, but don’t bring benefit to the community. I think that’s happening in Congress now. The system needs new blood, but one has to go through the two parties to run for office which tend to support the current system.
    #

    Anne if you do so as a group (group think if you will), don’t expect to be treated as individuals, with individual needs or individual ability to reason. Identity politics is destructive. To the structures of society and ultimately to the individuals themselves.

    And if you think that congress is renewing itself with ‘pure’ blood right now, you are very much mistaken. Different name, same ‘ol, same ‘ol.

  35. Uh, Clem writes
    October 25th, 2008 9:09 am

    Let me see if I have this right. If I vote AGAINST a black man because of his skin color, I’m a racist. But if I vote FOR a black man because of his skin color, I’m…what? A Democrat?

  36. AnnaS writes
    October 26th, 2008 1:05 am

    Sookie,

    I don’t think Congress is renewing itself at all. I think people will need to vote them out, and get new people in. The trick is to get good new people. I merely pointed out that there are people who vote the “party” line, whatever their “party” is, either race, religion, sex, or political party.

    Does anyone have ideas how to encourage more diverse people into politics? How about a moratorium on lawyers running for Senate? Perhaps we can let the Ivy Leagues have a rest and let MIT and Caltech alumni run the country for a while.

  37. Neil writes
    October 26th, 2008 9:13 pm

    OK…
    So i got to school in california. I am growing up with the next generation.And it sucks because if a white kid stares down a black he will get jumped after school.And u know what i stare down all of them. I dont try to degrade myself as low as they are but whites have a right to infact we invented the rights.blacks just fallow and mexicans. I mean if oboma didnt put 150 million towards camaigning he coulda made a new border. i know i am young but i know what i am talking about. But back to degrading myself to them i am white and i am just as proud to be white as anyone is to be anyother color. And i am constantly fighting with kids in my class over what my political thoughts are and i always prove my point. and mexicans say oh whites need us to work for them BS. they smell everywere they hang out and blacks look at were they live they think they are all tight sagging there pants u know were that arriginated from if u havnt look it up. and its all taged up and trash everywere us whites live in gated comunitys for a reason and when we cant afford that we move to utah,

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