Palin As The Ultimate Outsider
By Kleinheider Posted on August 29, 2008 at 12:55 pmEnclave sees this as a negative:
Wasilla is just too far outside of Washington to do us any good.
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That’s correct. A train ride to Delaware to be with the kids is just about the right distance from DC.
You know, since Alaska is just too far away, maybe we should sell it to the Soviets… I mean, the Russians.
Matthew
Nothing against Alaska. Just against the idea that a person can move from Mayor of Wasilla to the White House based on the McCain meme that experience is what counts most in the next Presidency.
A community organizer in Chicago probably has more experience dealing with domestic issues relevant to all 50 states than the Mayor of Wasilla.
I’m sorry, if we’re supposing that 24 months as Governor of Alaska doesn’t add to her resume, then I’d suggest that 24 months as a U.S. Senator does little to add to Barack’s; therefore, A state senator from Illinois has less experience in the EXECUTIVE position than a Mayor.
I’m still not sure how you’re going to back out of this flawed logic, S-Town.
Matthew
MH- Your logic is what needs some work. 24 months adds 24 months of experience as governor of a small state to an otherwise empty resume. No foreign policy experience. No experience on national issues. No experience on agricultural issues. No experience on urban issues. Completely, grossly unqualified.
Hey MATTHEW, do a little research…Obama has been a Senator for 48 months. So maybe S-Town Mike will get out of the flawed logic by just being able to add, which you apparentley cannot.
Furthermore, if you think “executive” experience covers being the part time mayor of a town of 8,000 people, than you are really delusional.
Bottom line: 24 months as a Governor of the nation’s least populated state doesnt compare to 48 months as a UNITED STATES Senator, or 8 YEARS as a Senator in a state 15 TIMES larger than Eskimo Town, Alaska.
ScottJ — Two years of experience as Governor is more than Obama, the “community organizer” had in the U.S. Senate when he decided to run for president.
Let’s face it, if you believe Palin is grossly unqualified then you must conceded that Obama is just as grossly unqualified if not more — and he’s at the TOP of your ticket.
Matthew H–
You forgot to mention that she has been Executive over the state with the 3rd smallest population in the Union. It has the lowest density, some of the least diversity, few road connections compared to the lower 48, and the highest per capita income (which means she has not faced the challenges of dealing with working and lower classes).
Sounds like one of the least challenging executive positions in the US. U.S. Senators gain a wealth of experience in foreign and domestic policy that eclipses the pedestrian, even underachieving experience of the Alaskan Governor. The best you could do would be to argue as one Fox commentator did that she has international experience based on the mere fact that Alaska sits next to Russia.
“Let’s face it, if you believe Palin is grossly unqualified then you must conceded that Obama is just as grossly unqualified if not more — and he’s at the TOP of your ticket.”
What? Obama was a state senator in Illinois for 8 years which far trumps the 20 months(not 24) in state government for Palin. Since then, he has been in the U.S. Senate for 4 years, dealing with issues that Palin hasn’t even thought about. Your argument is so absurd and your logic is so strained that I can only surmise that you are being disingenuous.
In any event, I’ll take a playbook from the GOP. When is Palin going to visit Iraq? When is Palin going to visit any foregin country?
“What? Obama was a state senator in Illinois for 8 years which far trumps the 20 months(not 24) in state government for Palin. Since then, he has been in the U.S. Senate for 4 years”
If you want to start getting technical, Obama was sworn into the Senate in 2005, so he’s held the title U.S. Senate for almost 33 months. He announced he was running for president after just 150 days of work in the Senate. Since Obama announced, how many committee hearings has he attended? How many bills did he pass? Please tell me what Obama’s signature piece of legislation in the U.S. Senate is? What exactly has he accomplished to qualify him to be president?
Yeah, I know, he was a “community organizer” and registered lots of felons and homeless people to vote. He spent 7 years in the State Senate, a seat he ran for unopposed. I guess he was successful in killing the Born Alive Infant Protection Act while in the State, so there’s something he can run on that will be popular with “women voters.”
Palin is a great choice. She’s a breath of fresh air. A strong, conservative woman with a record of fighting corruption and federal waste. What’s more, she’s got a personal story to be proud of, unlike Obama who wants to keep larges swathes of his past life secret from the public.
Wow, that last response and its hateful nonsense just exposed you as the foolish troll that you are. No more response necessary.
Ok, one little response, Palin is definitely fighting corruption, or fighting for it….
http://www.adn.com/monegan/story/492964.html
Worst VP Pick Ever.
“Wow, that last response and its hateful nonsense just exposed you as the foolish troll that you are. No more response necessary.”
Not surprising. Obama has no legislative accomplishments to point to, otherwise you would have listed them. He’s sorely lacking in the experience necessary to serve as Commander-in-chief.
Democrats are really running scared as evidenced by the rabid attacks on Palin just since this morning. I mean seriously, “worst VP pick ever?”
Palin’s going to connect to a lot of voters, men and women alike. This is a game changer.
Not surprising that you ignored Palin’s little corruption problem, which is only getting bigger. It’s a game changer alright, just in the opposite direction of your delusions.
Let’s talk Obama’s legislative accomplishments. Here’s just a selection:
The Lugar-Obama Cooperative Threat Reduction.
Introduced by Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Dick Lugar and Sen. Tom Coburn.
First introduced in November 2005 and enacted in 2007, this bill expanded upon the successful Nunn-Lugar threat reduction, which helped secure weapons of mass destruction and related infrastructure in former Soviet Union states.
Lugar-Obama expanded this nonproliferation program to conventional weapons — including shoulder-fired rockets and land mines. When the bill received $48 million in funding, Obama said, “This funding will further strengthen our ability to detect and intercept illegal shipments of weapons and materials of mass destruction, enhancing efforts to prevent nuclear terrorism.”
Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006
This act of Congress, introduced by Senators Obama and Coburn, required the full disclosure of all entities or organizations receiving federal funds in FY2007.
Despite a “secret hold” on this bill by Senators Ted Stevens and Robert Byrd, the act passed into law and was signed by President Bush. The act had 43 cosponsors, including John McCain.
The act created this Web site, which provides citizens with valuable information about government-funded programs.
Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act
This law helped specify US policy toward the Congo, and states that the US should work with other donor nations to increase international contributions to the African nation.
The bill marked the first federal legislation to be enacted with Obama as its primary sponsor. Following this legislation’s passage, Obama toured Africa, traveling to South Africa, Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Chad. He spoke forcefully against ethnic rivalries and political corruption in Kenya.
Honest Leadership and Open Government Act
In the first month of the 110th Congress, Obama worked with Sen. Russ Feingold to pass this law, which amends and strengthens the Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995.
Specificially, the changes made by Obama and Feingold requires public disclosure of lobbying activity and funding, places more restrictions on gifts for members of Congress and their staff, and provides for mandatory disclosure of earmarks in expenditure bills.
The House passed the bill, 411-8, on July 31. The Senate approved it, 83-14, on Aug. 2. At the time, Obama called it “the most sweeping ethics reform since Watergate.”
Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act
Following the Republican-sponsored voter intimidation tactics seen in mostly black counties in Maryland during the 2006 midterm elections, Obama worked with Sen. Chuck Schumer to introduce this bill.
The bill has been referred to the United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary. Obama said of the bill, “This legislation would ensure that for the first time, these incidents are fully investigated and that those found guilty are punished.”
The Obama-McCain Climate Change Reduction Bill
The Obama-McCain bill, which is co-sponsored by Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., would cut emissions by two-thirds by 2050.
Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007
Introduced by Obama, this binding act would stop the planned troop increase of 21,500 in Iraq, and would also begin a phased redeployment of troops from Iraq with the goal of removing all combat forces by March 31, 2008.
Explaining the bill, Obama said it reflects his view that the problems in Iraq do not have a military solution. “Our troops have performed brilliantly in Iraq, but no amount of American soldiers can solve the political differences at the heart of somebody else’s civil war,” Obama said.
Amendments to the 2008 Defense Authorization Bill
Obama worked with Sen. Kit Bond to limit, through this bill, the Pentagon’s use of personality disorder discharges in the FY 2008 Defense Authorization bill.
This provision would add additional safeguards to discharge procedures and require a thorough review by the Government Accountability Office. This followed news reports that the Pentagon inappropriately used these procedures to discharge service members with service-connected psychological injuries.
“With thousands of American service members suffering day in and day out from the less visible wounds of war, reports that the Pentagon has improperly diagnosed and discharged service members with personality disorders are deeply disturbing,” said Senator Obama. “This provision will add additional safeguards to the Department of Defense’s use of this discharge and mandate a comprehensive review of these policies.”
The Comprehensive Nuclear Threat Reduction provision
Working with Sen. Hagel and Rep. Adam Schiff, Obama authored this provision, which would require the president to develop a comprehensive plan for ensuring that all nuclear weapons and weapons-usable material at vulnerable sites around the world are secure by 2012 from the threats that terrorists have shown they can pose.
A provision from the Obama-Hagel bill was passed by Congress in December 2007 as an amendment to the State-Foreign Operations appropriations bill.
Ha, did you go cut and paste that off Obama’s website or something? Very lame, I can’t believe you actually cited the “Congo Security and Democracy Promotion Act.” I bet he named some post offices too. I’m sure Obama has cosponsored lots and lots of bills like every other Senator, some even became law, but he doesn’t have a signature issue. Where’s the big accomplishment? What’s the issue everyone knows Obama for? The “Change We Can Belive in Act” or “Hope Promotion Act of 2007.”
With McCain you’ve got years of fighting wasteful pork-barrel spending, and of course on foreign policy he was the architect of the surge — just to name a few big accomplishments that your average American is likely familiar with. I guess Obama gave a speech about Iraq, oh yeah and he called for our surrender by March of 2008.
I can tell you and the rest of the Democrats are just reeling. Did Obama give a speech last night? Sure can’t tell by what people are talking about today.
“Not surprising that you ignored Palin’s little corruption problem, which is only getting bigger.”
Oh yeah, that’s hardly a “corruption problem.” Obama, however, has quite a few corruption problems. One big one named Tony Rezko comes to mind. How’d a former “community organizer’ (ie street agitator) afford such a nice mansion in Hyde Park anyway??
Mrs Smith goes to Washington…I love it!
Please, let’s hear more about Tony Rezko. That’s worked so well for you in the past.