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Angry White Female

Posted on May 7, 2008 at 7:12 am

Ilissa Gold on what she sees as a slight to black voters by a Clinton campaign surrogate:

Right now on Hardball they have on a Clinton surrogate, former Clinton press secretary Lisa Caputo, just said that it’s all about “white middle class voters” and in particular, that the “white middle class has been hurt the most by the economic downturn.”

Yeah, way to cast aside millions of voters. Black people don’t matter because they vote for Obama. They’re just like the “elites who swill white wine”, they haven’t been hurt by the economic downturn at all. Not like those hardworking whites.

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24 Responses to “Angry White Female”

  1. Phil Accio writes
    May 7th, 2008 8:38 am

    I suppose she meant the welfare checks haven’t been affected by the economic downturn.

  2. May 7th, 2008 8:55 am

    Is it possible that the statement simply acknowledges the reality that Black Americans (as Smokey Robinson prefers to be described) are voting overwhelmingly for Obama in the primaries (as you stated) and overwhelmingly for whatever presidential candidate the Dems put forward? No Democrat needs to court their vote in November.

    On the other hand perhaps all it means is that there a lot more white-middle class voters than there are any other group. Does every statement have to include a thorough explanation of why it is not intended to insult any group not included in the statement? Has the AARP weighed in on having been slighted yet?

  3. HitNRun writes
    May 7th, 2008 9:25 am

    Black people don’t matter, not because “they vote for Obama”, but because they’ll enthusiastically swarm to the polls in buses to vote 90-10 for the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is. Not even “youths,” “evangelicals,” and other so-called partisan groups come even halfway to the level of unrequited dependability offered by blacks.

    Don’t like it? Tough. There are Republicans nominated for your vote every two-to-six years. Consider voting for one.

  4. May 7th, 2008 9:48 am

    It’s not aimed against blacks per se, I don’t think, but it is the natural result of seeing everything through the prism of votes, rather than actually thinking about their lives. This is a blind spot common to many politically-minded people, but especially Democrats in this century.

    If you were actually sitting down and thinking about what the effects of the economy were on people, you would say very different things, and those statements would reflect people’s jobs and industries more than it would their races.

    Caputo’s comment lets leak a view of the electorate as a dehumanised source of votes for The Candidate, but don’t think that the Clintons are the only ones who think like this.

  5. Thomas Biernesser-Capitalist Infidel writes
    May 7th, 2008 10:38 am

    *sigh*

    Ilissa, don’t you ever do anything but scream? If you really want to spend time shooting people down, do it right:

    1) Include some logic & backup facts (both conspicously absent);
    2) Stop screaming long enough to write a coherent statement. I’m tempted to believe you turn off your brains whenever people talk about race (if you had any).

    As to your subject, you should consider the possibility that perhaps not everyone in the world is looking to shoot down blacks. The way you keep having this knee-jerk scream-reflex, people are going to have to just stop talking around you-they can’t even finish or clarify a statement before you screech over them.

    P.S. I’m not a racist or a Republican zealot or anything of the kind. I greatly admire the blacks who can deal with these issues rationally (One Dr. Okusami has taught me a lot about this sort of thing). My only problem is with idiots-no matter their race or gender. You might get a lot less of these flame-comments if you acquired some brains & started using them (or at least stop caterwauling every five minutes).

  6. May 7th, 2008 10:59 am

    She has a Cornell education - do YOU?

  7. GoldnI writes
    May 7th, 2008 11:02 am

    Don’t point that out LWC, they might call me ELITIST!!!

  8. Wintermute writes
    May 7th, 2008 11:17 am

    I wish *I* got that kind of defense from the Cracker.

    GoldnI is not being knee-jerky here. She’s calling out the do-anything-to-win tactics of the wanna-be-dynastic Clintons in this campaign.

  9. Amused Observer writes
    May 7th, 2008 11:28 am

    The Capitalist Infidel has mentioned several quite valid points. LeftWing Cracker is attacking the messenger but says nothing about the message. In civilized discourse this is considered unbecoming and the assumption is that his counter arguement is weak or nonexistant.

    There is nothing posted so far to show that an education at Cornell is an advantage when engaged in critical thinking.

  10. GoldnI writes
    May 7th, 2008 11:45 am

    In all seriousness, it just seemed in the interview that she put a particular emphasis on the word “white.” Not on the “working-class” part of it, but on “white.” And she did it several times in the interview.

  11. Drider writes
    May 7th, 2008 12:06 pm

    It seems the Author of this article wishes to inject racism into a simple statment made that was focused on a specific demographic element of voters….that being the white working class.

    It is IMHO ammusing to see this type of elevated race mongering comming from Obama and his camp/followers everytime a simple question or statment is made.

    Obama has the black vote locked with numbers that Saddam Hussein couldnt even achieve in certain areas of the country….enjoy it but realize that 100% of the black vote will not win the general…wont even come close, so keep on playing on the white guilt myth every other minute and see what you get in the general.

    I’m looking forward to much much more….keep it comming.

  12. Straight Up writes
    May 7th, 2008 12:15 pm

    Straight up. White folks are tired of being scapegoated for the lazy and uneducated. There is no such thing as “white economics” or “black economics”… What’s good for the goose should be good for the gander, but no…. We get to constantly hear how racist we white folk are. Forget all y’all. We stopped listening to you and your race baiting friends.

  13. TomJW writes
    May 7th, 2008 1:04 pm

    LWC
    TB-CI is using their education. Is Ilissa using her Cornell education?

  14. Tim writes
    May 7th, 2008 1:53 pm

    Lots of Chuckles from me.

    I can’t tell you how this is eventually going to play out. But Hillary might be cruising for a defeat in her senate seat too. Obamas voters, have selective memory, probably for only the purpose to get what they want. Not that they know what is good for them. Likewise if Hillary is hurting Obama its his own fault. She is protraiting him for exactly what he is. A socialist of the worst kind and a demagogue. There is no way he can unit the country. It doesn’t need uniting. It doesn’t need social justice, or any other kind of juistice. Those are myths of the worst kind. We all know what a unicorn is, but does it exist? No. and social equality cannot exist either. Here is a very important question. What kind of system could we make where a professional quarterback never loses a game? Don’t be an idiot and say well we shouldn’t keep scores. That don’t save the quarterback. That thought removes the idea of a qaurterback. Hence your arguing against sports, and life in general. Like I want to say, Politicians don’t have the answers, nor solutions. They didn’t create employment. Enterprise did, and free enterprise even more so.
    Keep fighting for Barak, he is the only one egnomiacal enough to weaken the democratic party.

  15. GW Crawford writes
    May 7th, 2008 2:25 pm

    Blacks, at 13% of the population, are treated by the media as if they were the majority

    Hello, AWF! Maybe the gun-hugging, bible-holding white folks are getting a little tired of being called simpletons and rubes

  16. Dan writes
    May 7th, 2008 3:12 pm

    “She has a Cornell education - do YOU?”

    I can curl my tongue - can YOU?

  17. GoldnI writes
    May 7th, 2008 3:30 pm

    I don’t know about LWC, but I can curl my tongue as well. I’d show you but I’m not leaving Ithaca for three more weeks.

  18. HitNRun writes
    May 7th, 2008 3:52 pm

    “She has a Cornell education - do YOU?”

    George W. Bush has a Yale education and a Harvard education - do YOU?

    You’d think that fact alone would have killed the education fantasy-hierarchy years ago.

  19. Jenn M. writes
    May 7th, 2008 4:09 pm

    Lisa Caputo is just telling the truth. Since when did Black Americans become magical fairies immune to cold political equations? And why does everyone (or at least every white) have to be so “careful” when discussing the magical black vote in political conversation?

    The black vote is like the Teachers Union vote. They are a known quantity, they are not swing voters, ultimately, They Don’t Matter. White working class voters are the Prison Guards Union vote. They are not a known quantity, they are swing voters, They Do Matter.

    Obama is aleady doomed in the general election because he’s insulted the “Prison Guard Union.”

  20. GoldnI writes
    May 7th, 2008 5:01 pm

    HitnRun, the difference is that I got into Cornell on my own merit, grades and SAT scores. No one wrote a letter or pulled strings for me.

    And Jenn, they do matter. They may side with the Democrats but a Democrat can’t win if they stay home.

  21. Amused Observer writes
    May 7th, 2008 6:22 pm

    “HitnRun, the difference is that I got into Cornell on my own merit, grades and SAT scores. No one wrote a letter or pulled strings for me.”

    You should be congratulated for your accomplishments. A nagging nasty little question would be whether or not anyone with a higher SAT score was denied entrance?
    That is the ugly legacy of affirmative action, legitimate accomplishments are stigmatized.

    But all of this discussion regarding your education is smoke. LeftWing Cracker used your educational achievements in an extremely weak attack on one of the more intelligent and well reasoned comments posted here.

    You are correct that the lock that the Democratic party has on black votes is vital to them. But that is a much better thing for the Democrats than it is for the blacks. If you can’t understand that, your vaunted Cornell education isn’t doing you much good.

  22. GoldnI writes
    May 7th, 2008 8:49 pm

    That is the ugly legacy of affirmative action, legitimate accomplishments are stigmatized.

    The only form of “affirmative action” I may have benefitted from was coming from a geographical location that’s underrepresented at Cornell (i.e. anywhere that’s not in New York, New Jersey, California, or China). White Jewish women are hardly underrepresented here.

  23. Ken Begg writes
    May 8th, 2008 4:28 pm

    George W. also piloted highly dangerous and sophisticated military jets. Did “string-pulling” help him with that?

  24. Yamaneko writes
    May 8th, 2008 6:41 pm

    African-Americans may vote 90-10 for Democrats, but only because one wing of the GOP finds ways to insult them. If the Trent Lott wing of the GOP can shut up for six months, the GOP may pull off a serious realignment if Clinton wins the nomination.

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