Naifeh Overruled
Posted on May 1, 2008 at 10:48 amBig news on SJR 127 today in the legislature. Rep. Gary Odom made a motion to suspend the rules to vote on a resolution regarding the House schedule, an issue unrelated to SJR 127.
Rep. Bill Dunn then made a motion to amend that motion to suspend so that SJR 127 could be brought up for its first of three readings.
Dunn was then ruled out of order by House Speaker Jimmy Naifeh.
The House Republicans then objected to that ruling. A vote was called to overrule. House Republicans won that vote by 1. A recess was then called for.
The House is now back in session and Dunn has renewed his motion.
UPDATE: Representative Dunn’s motion prevailed 51-43. Odom then withdrew his original motion. Objections were made. A motion was made to adjourn the session and recess until Tuesday. It failed. Session continues…
UPDATE II: Quarreling over the rules has lead to a microphones off discussion between Naifeh, Odom and Republican leaders.
UPDATE III: Odom’s motion to withdraw was voted down 45-51. Dunn’s amendment was thus adopted. The House then voted on whether to suspend the rules in order to bring SJR 127 to the floor. Bringing the resolution to the floor bypassing the committee process requires a two-thirds majority. The vote failed, and SJR 127 was not brought to the floor for a vote.
The two-thirds majority required to bring the resolution to the floor bypassing the committee process was not reached. SJR 127 was not brought to the floor for a vote.
Rep. Moore then called for a moment of prayer and silence for “what just went on here today.” Republican Glen Casada praised the motion and the events of the day as a true expression of representative democracy.
NashvillePost.com political reporter Ken Whitehouse was in the chamber for the events and has a full and complete blow by blow and explanation of what happened right here.
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26 Responses to “Naifeh Overruled”
Naifeh is the Enemy of Freedom
Do I understand correctly that Odom’s original motion was to suspend the rules in order to accomodate Bredesen’s desire for a budget address to a joint session? And that motion (with Dunn’s SJR 127 amendment) failed?
You don’t understand very much correctly, Hobbs. I’m sure that won’t stop you from spreading misinformation in short order, however….
It was a question, Scott. What was Odom’s original motion to suspend the rules for?
These shenanigans show how intellectually bankrupt the Republicans are. They are desperately grasping for an issue for this fall’s elections.How disgusting that they use such a serious subject for blatantly partisan purposes.
Republicans will get what they deserve when they get hammered this fall.
Finally, Bill Hobbs is a douchebag.
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I just got back from class, so I’m a little confused. Are they voting on SJR 127 or not?
GoldnI, they tried to get it to a floor vote but failed to get the 66 votes needed to bring it to the floor so they could then vote on it.
Because it didn’t come out of committee they need the two-thirds vote to even get a roll call vote. They got a majority but not two-thirds.
No, Dunn was trying to get SJR127 out of committee and onto the floor. There was no vote, as the Democrats wouldn’t allow it.
Do I understand correctly that Odom’s original motion was to suspend the rules in order to accomodate Bredesen’s desire for a budget address to a joint session? And that motion (with Dunn’s SJR 127 amendment) failed?
What I’m hearing is that Odom’s original resolution was to set the schedule next week. Dunn’s amendment was an amendment to the MOTION not the resolution.
Though the circus of process here clearly has the full three rings, isn’t the real story the headline?!
Stacee - passing or not passing SJR 127 this session doesn’t change the status of the issue for the fall campaign one iota. SJR 127 is a constitutional amendment. It has to pass in two successive General Assemblies to get on the ballot - even if it passed today, it would still have to pass again in 2009 or 2010, only after which would it be on the 2010 November ballot.
GOP legislators are pushing for it because it’s the right thing to do, even though it having been previously killed by Naifeh and his minions actually makes it a more potent campaign issue than if it were to pass this session.
SJR 127 has majority support in the legislature and in the population of Tennessee. It’s effect would be this: if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe V Wade, Tennessee’s legislature, rather than its state Supreme Court, would set abortion regulatory policy in the state. That’s it. End of story. SJR 127 does not ban anything or take away anybody’s rights. In fact, it expands the rights of the people of Tennessee, via their elected legislators, to decide abortion policy in the state.
Opposition to SJR 127 is support for an unelected judiciary to rule without being answerable to the people on this issue.
“SJR 127 has majority support in the legislature and in the population of Tennessee. ”
Riiiiiight….
“Opposition to SJR 127 is support for an unelected judiciary to rule without being answerable to the people on this issue.”
Ha. SJR 127 is a pathetic attempt to create a campaign issue, plain and simple. The GOP has already demonstrated their hypocrisy on this issue by opposing waiting periods and informed consent initiatives that were proposed by Dems.
You have a Plan C for trying to justify this nonsense, Hobbs?
Yeah, the peoples are clamoring for this…just the other day I was pumping gas and some guy next to me said, “Damn, I just can’t stop thinking about SJR 127, and how it sucks that I can’t vote to ban a medical procedure that is already banned.”
Oh my god. Can we call a time-out just for a second to stand back and admire this amazing piece of ridiculousness? Really, Hobbs. Do you just string together pretty sounding words or do you every, even once stop to think about what you’re saying?
“SJR 127 does not ban anything or take away anybody’s rights. In fact, it expands the rights of the people of Tennessee, via their elected legislators, to decide abortion policy in the state.”
Who, with a straight face, could argue that this isn’t about depriving half the people in Tennessee of their right to make unpopular decisions about what to do with their bodies?
I mean, please, if I were arguing for a state constitutional amendment that would outlaw firearms, you know, just in case the 2nd amendment got overturned, you would rightly see that as the threat to firearms I intended it as.
Why do you have to be so dishonest about what you’re up to? Just come out and say, honestly, that the TNGOP, with you as their mouthpiece, are a bunch of busybodies who want the State Constitution to change to make your busybodying justified.
Well, shoot, you’re talking about expanding the rights of the people to butt into women’s medical decisions. I guess you are saying that the TNGOP is trying to build the case for a resurgence in legal Peeping Tom-ism.
Ha, ha, ha. Hobbs, maybe you’d better inform your fellow Republicans that Norquist wanted a government so small you could drown it in a bathtub, not so small it could legislate from my bedroom.
The Republicans are playing politics, pure and simple.
And Bill Hobbs is still a douchebag.
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I picture Hobbs’ head spinning around like in the Excorcist every time he trots out this sort of ludicrous nonsense. “We’re not taking away rights! We’re creating the right to take away rights!”
It must be very liberating going through life without a shred of intellectual integrity.
GOP legislators are pushing for it because it’s the right thing to do,
The legislators are pushing for it because they want it on the ballot to bring out the 30% dead-enders to vote for other 30% dead-ender candidates and a 30% dead-ender governor in 2010.
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Naifeh continues to be good for a couple of things, and this is one. Not reason enough to put the batteries in for another session, though, given the other disasters befalling us.
By the way, “the people” should not be voting on constitutional/civil rights issues. Some people could lose their rights that way. Maybe yours would be next. That is why the United States is a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
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